Neoteny

written for Going Your Own Way forum. Reviewed & Edited by BeijaFlor

Have you ever pondered why some western men are attracted to Asian girls? Are you perhaps among those who are perplexed on why western men find Asian girls appealing?  The answer lies in Neoteny. In this article, I attempt to provide the break down and the lowdown on Neoteny as well as the world’s fascination, obsession, celebration and perversion of it. Now, there are several aspects to Neoteny; anthropological, physiological, physical, psychological and evolutionary. To delve deep into each category would be far beyond the scope of this article but I will cover relevant aspects from each of them. 

 

Forever Young

British American Anthropologist Ashley Montagu in his 1989 work Growing Young simply described Neoteny as Juvenilization. This view is shared by American Paleontologist and Evolutionary Theorist Steven Jay Gould (2008) who described Neoteny as “progressive juvenilization as an evolutionary phenomenon”. He proposed that humans “have evolved by retaining to adulthood the originally juvenile features of our ancestors.” I myself am rather taken by renowned scientist JBS Haldane’s definition of Neoteny as the “preservation of embryonic and infantile traits” as well as the “retardation of the developmental rates in humans” (Montagu 1989: 222-224).

In case you missed that, Neoteny is the preservation of childishness and the retardation of maturity.

There is of course, the laymen’s explanation of Neoteny which include “maintaining youthful characteristics into adulthood,” (Merlin 2003) and “the physiological (or somatic) development of an animal or organism is slowed or delayed,” (Phneah 2012) and my favorite, “when cuteness is retained after an animal reaches adulthood,” (Dickinson 2012). These are examples of Neoteny as expressed by women and to be fair these definitions are not wrong but they are inaccurate and too confined within political correctness that belies the breadth and depth of its meaning, which includes the distinct practice and philosophy of childish traits, appearances and behaviors.

Neoteny is essentially Childish-ism, and I aim prove this claim.

Do the Evolution

The general consensus among evolutionists is that animals as well as humans are indeed neotenic and were needed to be to ensure the continuing survival of the species. Zoologist and Nobel Prize winner Konrad Lorenz proposed that cuteness “motivates caretaking behavior in human, with the evolutionary function of enhancing the offspring survival” (Glocker et al., 2009). In other words, the reason babies and puppies are cute is to elicit a nurturing response in adults to ensure the adults care for them.

And unfortunately, we are biologically programmed to respond to cuteness.

Two hormones called Vasopressin and Oxytocin suffuses the adult brain and programs it to send tsunamis of pleasurable emotions that turn an observer into protector and provider (Sanello 2011). Oxytocin and Vasopressin are key hormones in the neuroanatomy of intimacy, particularly in pair bonding and social attachment (Young & Wang, 2004). So yes, every single one of us is highly susceptible to the effect of the attractiveness of cute things.

To give you a perspective, here is a simple narrative. Keep in mind that a girl reaches sexual maturity at the average age of 14 years hence she would appear and behave as a child in all other ways. Our caveman ancestor met 14 year old cavegirl, his hormones stimulated his neurological impulses and he responds. Cavegirl agrees to mate with cavemen with the condition that he protects her from the environment as well as providing a nest and eatables. Repeat for 3,000 generations then lo and behold, cavegirl’s childish traits were passed down and perfected till it reached us.

And we know this is possible when we look at the rapid evolution of diverse dog breeds. Many adult dogs are similar to puppies in their behavior and morphology. The breed differentiation in the dog is believed to be possibly based on neotenic processes so that some morphological or physiological traits delayed at a particular developmental stage may become characteristics of the breed (Trut et al., 2004). To put it simply, dogs behave and look appealing because they retain their puppy-ish features when humans domesticated and bred them.

In our example, when our cavemen ancestors mated with 14 year old cavegirl, this would produce women who retain their childish traits and cavegirls would best remain childish to be cute and appealing if they are to attract other cavemen who will protect and provide for them.

Physical Graffiti

So how do we quantify cute and appealing? In a 2009 study of facial characteristics between two groups of Italian beauty contestants against women in a reference group, it was found the two groups of beauty contestants share similar traits which include larger forehead, smaller jaw as well as broader, flatter and more rounded face. The attractive Italian women had faces characterized by more "babyness" traits compared to the "normal" women used as a reference (Sforza et al., 2009).

Women look like children and what’s more, they want to look like children.

We can verily observe this by looking from the laymen’s definition given earlier; “maintaining youth” as well as “cuteness retained” underlie the desire to be young that is to remain a child. This lust for youthfulness has spawned a pointless need that women indulge in and are willing to pay for. A study of 2000 British women found that the average woman spends £18,000 or $30,000 on her face in her lifetime which includes £9,500 or $15,000 on make-up (Waterlow 2013). British women spend an equivalent of buying a car to look juvenile; it is insane.

Before and After Makeup

And because men are attracted to young and pretty things due to neurological fireworks as well as the biological imperative to mate; women know that men who are interested in them will offer protection and provision, hence these women will present themselves in a such a way to attract as many men as they can for the purpose of mining vast amount of resources otherwise known as money and influence. Sex sells because women look neotenous and men respond to neoteny.

This has led to the supposed sexual objectification of women -- but note that it was originally brought on by women as a tool to control men. Women deliberately entice men while at the same time they reprimand and shame them for having natural sexual urges. This works to lower the supply of sex and inflate women's sexual value. As their value rises, so too does their influence; and they can command the terms of the negotiation for the protection and provision offered by men.

And men have agreed and adhered to all the unfair and unjust terms dictated by women.

Sad but True

Stardusk (2013) mentioned that “if women have evolved to have juvenile features, and men prefer this, and women are protected to the greater extent from the ravages of life by said men, having been taken care of for the most part in the past; it stands to reason that mentally a great portion of women have remained – psychologically speaking – in certain respects in an arrested state of development in their behavior, a behavior that can readily be likened to as a child.”

In our example of caveman and cavegirl; because our ancestors mated with juveniles – with the mental capacity of a child - for 3,000 generations, it is more than likely that through these natural selective breeding women retained psychologically childish tendencies and behaviors. And we can observe and compare this behavior of women with the children of today. Children whine and throw tantrums, women nag and throw hysterics; children can only think about themselves, women are largely concerned with only their wants; children think they are helpless victims and so do women.

Below are examples and a comparison of behaviors exhibited by a woman and two children;

(Worldmedia, 2013)

Oh yeah, it’s ugly. Now compare that video to the one below

(Steve Spell II, 2011)

The similarities between the woman and the children in the two videos above are palpable and telling. Whether it is inborn or acquired or intentional or inadvertent, the fact of the matter is that women are childish in their appearance and behavior. They resist and retard any attempt to mature both physically and mentally. Childish-ism is very much the core of women’s mental processes.

Karen Straughan (2012) stated to the effect that when men perceived women as juvenile, they are not taken seriously which contributes to men disregarding adult female disorderly behavior. This is overly simplistic and I would like to expand on this. I think when a woman behaves like a child i.e. throwing tantrums; both men and women see that this is unacceptable behavior in any adult. However, when a woman has high neotenous physical features i.e. she looks cute and pretty; then this woman can attract men and women who are infatuated with her due to their Oxytocin and Vasopressin firing in their brain that they will deliberately overlook her disruptive behavior i.e. Too Pretty For Prison syndrome. And we know that when a child throws a tantrum, is hurting or cries, it compels adults to mollycoddle and give in to the child and this has been a highly successful strategy for highly neotenous women too.

It is a winning strategy that has worked since caveman met 14 year old cavegirl 100,000 years ago when cavemen had to provide cavegirl a comfy den and delectable cuisine as well as protect her from saber-tooth tigers. Men have allowed these childish women to get away with their hysterics because they are intoxicated by the idea of sex. But whilst men have evolved and progressed from caves to space stations, women continue to stagnate in the comfort of the man that fulfilled her needs and wants. At least cavegirl honored her contract by having intercourse with cavemen. The modern woman do not honor her contract with her man, entraps him into fatherhood that he has no say in, dangles the sex carrot to turn him into slave labor and once she has exhausted him of his resources, she readily leaves him with no remorse, shame or responsibility (manwomanmyth, 2010).

And men still let women get away with it. We need to stop doing this.

Around the World

In my opening I asked the question why some western men prefer Asian girls. Montagu (1989: 13) found that Mongoloid skulls in particular of Chinese and Japanese variety are more neotenized compared to others. This is not surprising considering that China and Japan not only excel in neoteny; they celebrate it. The Japanese and Chinese often produce and reward women who are petite, have small hands and feet, large eyes, round faces and soft jaws; Asian women are more commonly cute (not that other women aren't). 

Blogger Seminal Thoughts (2013) proclaimed, and I agree with him, that Japan is the most neotenous in the world. In what specific areas you ask? Everything; the Japanese neotenized any and all from their 3^rd century B.C. Haniwa clay figures, to 8^th century Fat Buddha statues, to their food, cars, clothes and women; the Kawaii or Cutesy trend is a Japanese pop-culture identity heavily ingrained in their national psyche and this has spilled over to China, South Korea and South East Asia.

Kawaii Hello Kitty Smart Car by Sanrio and Smart

Kawaii Pikachu Boxed Lunch

Cute Japanese Girl

Now, I will go on record to say that this is not something to be proud of. As we know, neoteny is not only a physical attribute but also a psychological one. And East Asians, having the most neotenous looking females in the world, also produces the most infantile and juvenile women in existence. In China, women are prone to “Sa Jiao” which is a set of behaviors characterized by being spoiled, clingy and coquettish (Larson-Wang, 2012). In SEA, the equivalent to “Sa Jiao” is “Manja,” and it is readily seen in women of Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand.

Here is a video of a Cantonese wife throwing a tantrum for not getting soup

(Fun Support, 2009)

And here is a clip of an elderly woman in a fit just to show you that this behavior is widespread

(Rice Tea, 2009)

There’s no English equivalent for Sa Jiao and Manja but I say that this is the epitome of Childish-ism which is rampant and so entrenched in Asia due to centuries of Asians traditionally and specifically seeking childisistic women to mate with and it has resulted in a pandemic of psychotic and neurotic females. Yeah, we fucked it up. And here is where a good argument can be made against traditionalism in Asia and perhaps the world over; and that is, traditionalism enables Neoteny and sires Childish-ism which has perpetrated and perpetuated the dysfunction and malfunction of women.

This is what Barbarossaa (2014) alluded to when he said “one must ask themselves whether or not we are actually deluding our species by allowing stay at home mothers and indeed women as a whole – half of our species after all – to get by in life with much less need to pursue intellectual endeavor,” and that “we have to do away with this powered by orgasm method of sustaining this civilization and adopt a powered by intellectual endeavor civilization.”

If we are to progress as a species, we need to stop reproducing using defective materials.

Boys to Men

Bless you if you have read this far. Neoteny is not exclusive to women; men also display neoteny though not at all the same. Physically, men are not generally neotenous, and certainly nowhere near as neotenous as women. However, psychologically men do retain a certain degree of childish behavior and mental processes both that are of benefit and detriment.

American Scholar Warren G. Bennis (2002: 20) explained Neoteny as “the retention of all those wonderful qualities that we associate with youth: curiosity, playfulness, eagerness, fearlessness, warmth, energy.” Bennis is describing the qualities that leaders still preserve as they age. What Bennis understated and what I feel is powerful, is that these traits; curiosity, playfulness, eagerness, fearlessness, warmth and energy; are all neotenous traits of boys. Bennis is effectively saying that men who carried with them their neotenous boyish behaviors into adulthood become great leaders and indeed these are laudable traits to have and should be cultivated.

However, I believe there is a definite detriment from the retention of boys’ psychological neotenous traits. Stardusk (2013) explained that the mother is a giver of care and nurture to the son and there is a state of discontinuity of what the man seeks moving from the mother to the sexual female partner. A man will not be given the same love and care from his wife as he used to receive from his mother. Stardusk hypothesize that this is the psychological origins of the residual Male Mother Need that exists in men. It could very well be that the Male Mother Need is a byproduct of men’s psychological neoteny and the perversion of it can lead to disturbing behavior and poor life choices as has been documented in the case of Bernard Boursicot.

However, if we assume Bennis to be true, then without doubt as thinking men we should attempt to revisit and reengage our boyish traits and develop them. Sandman (2014) pondered “why were we devoting our time to home decorating instead of space exploration and exploring our minds,” and “if we understood that we can learn and grow in the vastness of the universe and never become bored, then women are just some sideshow beggar tail.” Men are explorers and discoverers, and to be explorers and discoverers men need to be curious of wonders, eager to pursue, fearless towards adversity, active in our endeavors and just have a positive outlook on life. These are the traits that we once had in older and happier times because we used to engage the world with this attitude.

In The End

Physical Neoteny is not an absolute evil. We must understand that we biologically susceptible to cute and pretty things but there is a need to control the self from becoming infatuated to the point it skews our good judgement that we are guilty of unjust; there is no such thing as Too Pretty For Prison. 

What is more disconcerting is Psychological Neoteny, specifically in women who indulge in childishness, who suffer from Childish-ism, and who inflict harm upon others only to satisfy their own selfish greed and interest; we need to separate ourselves from these toxic women lest they make prey of us, rob us of our fortune and leave us destitute. 

We also need to reflect on our own psychological neoteny specifically those boyish traits of fearlessness, eagerness, playfulness, curiosity, energy and warmth. We need to relearn to become explorers and discoverers of our world again. 

When Barbarossaa jokingly refer to women as the 'beautiful retards,' I laughed my ass off because he hit the nail right on the head. They are in fact beautiful and they are in fact retards. And we don't want them to be retards; we want them to be the best that they can be but they can only achieve that if they stop being children and we start treating them as adults whose worth is proven by merit. 

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The Male Mother Need

Written by Kyojiro Kagenuma for www.goingyourownway.com

As a Herbivore man that took the Red Pill, I dived deep into the Rabbit Hole and discovered many hard but undeniable truths. Some truths are harder to swallow but those are the ones that truly liberate and expand the mind.

This is exactly what happened to the world when Galileo Galilei courageously proclaimed that earth was in fact, not the center of the universe to the Church in 1615. He was persecuted by the Roman Inquisition for his thoughts on heliocentrism but he would later achieve the acclaimed title of being the Father of Modern Science.

The progress we make as thinking men is one where we continually challenge the status quo and discover truths regardless of the overwhelming public opinion. In my humble opinion, there is one truth that is the bitterest pill to swallow but it is the foundation that is needed first and foremost, in order to reject and retaliate against gynocentrism and misandry all at once.

My aim is to give a compelling argument for the need to recognize and address the topic. If it sparks dissent, debate and discussion that would be welcomed and I urge people to speak their mind and provide convincing arguments for their points so that we may all learn and better ourselves. 

Defining the Male Mother Need

I would like to start that this notion is not new; many psychologist have postulated that men often project to their partners the idea of them being the mother-figure in the relationship. I will state here that Male Mother Need is not an Oedipus complex; men do not see their partners as mother-figures. I posit that what men truly seek is not another mother but an ideal woman and depending on how far a man allows this ideal to manifest and fester in his thoughts and psyche, different kinds of perversion may result.

Barbarossaa, in his video “Male Mother Need and Civilizational Draw Stifle Male Individualism” defines Male Mother Need as

"The propensity for men to believe that there exist his own personal angelic, warm and serenic soul mate and is the cause of much male suffering …"

(Bar Bar, 2012)

What men really seek is their own personal angelic, warm and serenic soul mate. Someone who understands you; who comforts you warmly after a bad day; who lifts your spirit with soft, gentle smiles and kind words of encouragement; who whispers to you how important you are to her, that her life is better because of you and that she is grateful to have you in her life; who acknowledges the arduous work you do and rewards you and only you with her mind, body and soul.

Yeah, ‘she’ doesn't exist. Herbivore Men simply have an awesome imagination.

All living beings have a biological imperative to reproduce but as humans we have the ability and capacity to reason and rationalize our behavior and our surroundings and it is this unhealthy idealization of women that brought about the misery that has afflicted us today.

Whether this ‘ideal’ is natured or nurtured is irrelevant; most men yearn for a mate that matches his own fantasy and he meanders through his life ever searching for that which only exists in his mind. Like it or not, we are biologically predisposed to seek out a partner who we foolishly convince ourselves could fulfill our individual idealistic notion of comfort and affection.

And until each man confronts this within him, he is in danger of being repeatedly manipulated and deceived by women and the Gynocracy.

Now, I detest ruminating in psychology because much of it is susceptible to anecdotal bias and selfish agendas that are frequently presented as facts using observational studies instead of actual evidence from clinical studies. However, it would be remiss of me to not at least present a thoughtful argument on how Male Mother Need develops and perverted.

The Curious Case of Bernard Boursicot

Bernard Boursicot is a French Diplomat who in 1964 engaged in a 18 year long romantic and sexual relationship with a Chinese Peking Opera singer named Shi Pei Pu. In 1965, Shi Pei Pu later claimed to be pregnant and even produced a baby boy named Shi Du Du which Boursicot believed to be his son. In those 18 years, Boursicot passed at least 150 classified documents to Shi until both of them were finally caught by the French government and were charged with espionage in 1983 (Wadler, J 1993). 

What is so fascinating about this story is that Shi Pei Pu was in fact, absolutely a man.  

And in fact Boursicot first met Shi Pei Pu as a man but Shi regaled him with the story of the butterfly,

Then, one evening, Shi told his new friend about The Story of the Butterfly, the opera in which he claimed to have performed one of his most famous roles. It concerns a beautiful girl who is unable to attend one of the imperial schools because of her sex; so she swaps clothes with her brother, and goes to school in his place. Shi then claimed that he had in fact been born a girl, but his mother had passed him off as a boy because her husband had only two daughters and wished for a son; he had lived a masculine life ever since.

(The Telegraph, 2009)

Shi fed Boursicot the lie but Boursicot ate that lie wanting to believe it. The boy Shi Du Du was bought from a doctor in Xinjiang province of China. So engrossed was Boursicot in his fantasy that when the French government confronted him with the evidence of Shi Pei Pu’s manhood, he attempted suicide. The story became a sensation in France not least because Boursicot had frequent sexual encounters with Shi across 18 years believing that Shi was a woman.

Boursicot was perhaps naïve, having been a virgin when he met Shi Pei Pu but he was a French Diplomat hence he was neither insane nor stupid. Boursicot exemplifies the extent a man allows himself to be subjected to his own fantasy, to justify and rationalize his belief that in his world his ideal woman exist which in the end only brought him humiliation and ruin. 

Boursicot allowed his Male Mother Need consume him. 

The Pussy Pass

In a more relevant example, we can see the manifestation of this Male Mother Need particularly in two groups of men that are of interest to us; White Knights and Manginae. Both these men are in fact, slaves to their Male Mother Need and project that need onto the various women they hold dear.

The White Knight, armed with his code of chivalry and gallantry, rides to the rescue of his Fair Maidens whom he sees as pure, wholesome, sinless and righteous. (The Society of Phineas, 2012). White Knights are defenders of women's honour. The Mangina is the wretched servant of the Evil Queen, so enthralled by her beauty and power that he ignores her wickedness and agrees with her every decree. Manginae are collaborators who intellectually support Feminism (Fidelbogen, 2012).

The White Knight's ideal woman is the Maiden while Mangina's ideal woman is the Queen, regardless whether either or both of them are fair or evil. I would even go so far to say that every man on the Blue Pill has a Male Mother Need that is embedded deep within them wanting to believe their own women – their mothers, sisters, friends and lovers – are the personification of classic Disney Princesses whilst ignoring that they may be or are in fact, Wicked Witches and Evil Stepmothers.

It is because of the Male Mother Need that such men can accept simplistic and naïve excuses such as ‘Not All Women Are Like That’ and ‘That’s Just the Way Women are.’ And women have played men based on this need. Claiming the ever helpless victim, they thrived on the White Knight’s chivalry and the Mangina’s sympathy to rally to their side even when obvious wrongs are perpetrated; a phenomenon known as the Pussy Pass or the dismissive attitude towards female dysfunction (Bar Bar, 2011).

The Male Mother Need in these men actually encourages the hypoagency of the Fair Maiden and rewards the solipsism of the Evil Queen. How else do we explain the double standard that when a 27 year old man has sex with a 14 year old girl, he is a rapist and receives 11 years imprisonment but when Debra Lafave, a 27 year old woman has sex with a 14 year old boy, she is merely labelled a sex offender and the prosecution dismissed all charges against her (Goldberg, S 2006).  

How do we explain Rape Shield Laws that protect the false-rape accuser who convicts men based solely on her testimony such as the case of Crystal Mangum and the Dukes Lacrosse Team in 2006? How do we explain the continuing demonization of the falsely accused by members of the public when their innocence had been proven? (Applebome, P 2007) Why no one thought that perhaps Crystal Mangum was a liar who would later went on to murder her boyfriend? (Goldstein, S 2013).

Green Grass

“Attachment is in many ways comparable to addiction, a compulsive dependency on external objects or experiences to manufacture an illusion of wholeness. Unfortunately, like other addictions, attachment becomes more intense over time.”

Mingyur Rinpoche

For the Herbivore Men, they recognize that the attachment to the ideal women fantasy brought on by man’s inherent Male Mother Need is an addiction. They have seen vagina worshippers and pussy beggars who are no better than addicts, appeasing women for the uncertain and meagre reward of sex to their own self-detriment that may result in work-related deaths and responsibility-driven suicides.

By being aware and mindful of this inherent need as an apparent addiction, Herbivore Men go through a process of gradual cessation by severing the connection between his happiness and his carnal pleasures. I think it is worth nothing that this is neither a spiritual nor a religious process but rather a strict mental exercise that requires discipline and logic.

The effect of this cessation, when the need for sex is removed, is that Herbivore Men can truly evaluate the actual value of women base on their intellect, character and behavior without being clouded by chivalry, sympathy or fornication. As women's distasteful attributes become more apparent through fresh insight, it further affirms the Herbivore Man’s resolve to nullify his Male Mother Need and motivates him to reject women and their malfunction. 

Women then would ceased to have control over the Herbivore Man. 

Red Pills

“Women have picked up on the fact that men will accept any form of dysfunctional courtship from women and that has created an environment where females have completely removed the possibility of female perversion from the general consensus.”

(Bar Bar 2011)

The MGTOWs perspective is to continually disclose women’s malfunction and to denigrate them for their perversion. MGTOW presents to the public that women are capable of and are acting out terrible deeds. The goal is to prove to the rest of men that the idea of the warm, angelic and serenic soul mate is a fiction and an affliction. As further evidence of women’s malfunction and dysfunction surfaces and given the spotlight, it will encourage more men to break free from their own Male Mother Need.

News such as the one In Texas, where 25 year old Melinda Lynn Muniz was arrested for killing her fiancée’s 2 year old daughter (Kemp, J 2014). Emma Wilson of England who was unanimously found guilty of murdering her 11 month old son (BBC, 2014). Julie Corey of Massachusetts was found guilty of first degree murder for strangling and beating her pregnant friend to death, cutting the baby out of the womb and claiming it as her own (Nye, J 2014).

With stories like the above, the public will see the true nature of females and men will wake up and wise up to all their ugliness. These examples of female dysfunction need to be made known and widespread to help other men shatter the ideal women fantasy.

No longer will women get by from a Pussy Pass.

Conclusion

Gentlemen, the source of gynocentrism and misandry among men is the Male Mother Need. We need to address it if we hope to bring about the downfall of Feminism and the Gynocracy. By learning to detach ourselves from our own Male Mother Need we are then able to expeditiously identify female dysfunctional behavior while retaining our wits. By keeping abreast of current news and affairs and then continually and vocally exposing women’s malfunction we can condemn and penalize their perverse behavior as well as combating the armies of Gynocracy from their excuses and deflections.

Reference:

Applebome, P 2007,  After Duke Prosecution..., The New York Times, April 15 2007 

Bar Bar, 2011,  Dismissive Male Attitude Towards Female Dysfunction, Youtube, August 11, 2011

Bar Bar, 2012, Male Mother Need and Civilizational Draw... – Youtube Jan 12, 2012 

BBC, 2014, Callum Wilson Murder: Mother Emma Wilson Jailed For Life,  BBC Jan 24, 2014
Fidelbogen, 2012, The Notorious ‘M’ Word; Mangina! – Counter-Feminist, June 18, 2012

Goldberg, S 2006, Too Pretty For Prison, The Guardian, March 24, 2006 
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Nye, J 2014, Woman WhoKilled Her Pregnant Friend…, The Daily Mail Feb 13, 2014 

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Grass Fed 1: An Introduction to Herbivore Men

First posted on MGTOW Red Pill Forum Feb 16 2014
Reposted at Going Your Own Way Forum Feb 20 2014

Let me begin by saying that I am not an expert whatsoever about Herbivore Culture. That said, I doubt there is anyone even in Japan who can give you an answer that can accurately portray Herbivore culture that is not biased by the feminine narrative. Also, although I did link some articles, this isn't an academic work or research, rather an opinion piece hence why I decided to put this in Anecdotal section. 

That’s What She Said

The term Soushoku-kei Danshi a.k.a. “Herbivore Boys” is coined by Maki Fukusawa in 2007 and became a buzzword by 2009/2010. Fukusawa is a woman and her observations will obviously be skewed by the feminine perspective. Soon, another woman by the name of Megumi Ushikubo, the president of the market firm Infinity, authored “The Herbivores Ladylike Men are Changing Japan” using pseudo-science to come up with her conclusions.

To be fair, a man named Masahiro Morioka, a professor from Osaka Prefecture University, made the term popular in his book "Love Lessons for the Herbivore Boys". The fact remains that the ones that made a fuss about this are the women, that is.

Herbivore men don’t talk about being Herbivore with other men; we just are and the women didn't like it.

The Japanese Beta Male 

What most Japanese traditional men are, are workaholic corporate salary-men. These men often work long hours and give all of their income to their wives – every last Yen. The wives in turn would give the husband allowances and keep the rest. Yes, this is a thing in Japan. (JapanTalk, 2012)

What these men truly are, are Japanese Beta Males being bitch-slapped by their wives. Anyone with half a brain could see that this is not a life and is the primary motivating factor behind the Herbivore Culture as well as the reason it has gained so much ground in Japan. Hence, the Herbivore Men is a counterculture to Nikushoku Danshi or Carnivore Men which is the traditional male role, specifically on matters of love, employment and consumption.  

Lesser known but just as true is that Herbivore Culture had existed long before the term was coined. It started back in the early 90’s as a reaction towards Japan economic downturn. As Japan’s economy further descends, it accelerated the growth of Herbivore Culture. The Herbivore men are typically 35 years of age or younger and this demographic corresponds to the period of Japan’s economic crisis; it’s a culture 20 years in the making, there just wasn't a name for it back then. 

The Herbivore Men is a culture that rejects traditional Japanese way of life in favour of individual happiness instead. 

Media Hype

What the media tend to report about Herbivore Men (that is commonly written by women) is that they are

• Afraid of women and commitment – some writers went as far as to state that Herbivore men are afraid to hurt and get hurt emotionally. 
• Frugal and non-ambitious – Herbivore men only spend money for themselves and aren't looking to advance themselves in society. 
• Effeminate, Fashion and Beauty Conscious – the media loves to focus on these metrosexual men who spend their money on beauty products and fashion. 
• Abstaining from sex – either being celibate or indifferent to sex. 

All I can do when I read articles that writes this is to facepalm myself. While the above criteria are true, it is very much misleading. Herbivore men are not identified by all 4 criteria; there are some Herbivore men that fit some of the criterion but no Herbivore man fit them. To think that Herbivore Men spend money on their hair, make up, fashion while at the same time saying that they are frugal when clearly beauty and fashion are luxury expenses, is ludicrous. 

The 70% of the men that are within the Herbivore demographic (20 – 35 y/o) whom identify themselves as Herbivore, include (but not limited to) NEETs (Not Employed, in Education or Training), and Freeters (men who are not employed or are not fully employed) which amounts to a sum of 2.5 million people who are further divided into different sub-cultures which consist of manga, video games, maid cafes and good-ole Japanese Adult Video (porn to you). 

NEETs, Freeters are included in the wider spectrum of other Herbivore men who do have fulltime employment and are doing well. NEETs and Freeters tend to be frugal and pretty much into the Otaku (Nerd) culture while at the same time being Soushoku-kei Danshi (Herbivore). And then there are the effeminate Herbivore Men who created this new trend of men who are into grooming and fashion and this is the Herbivore men that the media identifies readily and hyped. 

Another thing that the media likes to hype is the bruised pride and dignity of the Herbivore Men. Since the traditionally, women do not refuse the advances of Japanese man, the fact that modern Japanese women can and do reject Herbivore men at the point where it hurts their pride so badly that they simply cower, I find that also ludicrous especially when these findings were presented by Oricon (music statistic company of all things) and other companies using pseudo-science. 

Because the truth is, there are Herbivore Men who do date women; but many Herbivore men don't care. And although there are Herbivore men who are indeed shy and passive, it certainly doesn't explain why other Herbivore Men are celibate, asexual and/or indifferent. 

Masahiro Moriaka himself only ascribe the Herbivore Men label to the effeminate young Japanese men but he also stated that he believed the herbivorization of Japanese men began after the Second World War as Japan entered a time of military peace (Morioka, M 2013). However, Maki Fukusawa who first coined the term ascribe the term to all Japanese men who holds the same attitude towards women, giving the term a broader and more accurate definition in this commentators opinion.

The important thing to note is that, the Herbivore culture is more inclusive and diverse than what the media portrays. 

Japanese Men are Going Their Own Way

If you could ask every Herbivore Man, one common element that they all share is their attitude towards women, hence consequently marriage and relationships. The Carnivore Man is the symbol of traditional masculine role, i.e. a Japanese man is expected to support his wife and family without complaint even though he feels discontent and unhappy. The Carnivore Man’s social standing is defined by him having wealth and family, even if in pursuit of this makes him miserable. 

It also doesn't help that the main criticism that all the articles regarding Herbivore Man in Japan and around the world, come from the grievances of women who – if you read the subtext carefully – want their man to pamper them. The women want their man in their traditional roles as salary men who slaves at work all day and gives all his money to his wife; a life that Herbivore Men refuse to participate. 

References:

Moriaka, M 2013, Phenomenological Study of Herbivore Men, The Review of Life Studies, vol 4, Septermber 2013

Good reads on Herbivore Men
Japan Counterculture: The Soushoku Danshi – Shave Magazine

Japan’s Herbivore Men – Reuters

Who are Japan’s Grass-Eaters –  Discover Japan

Read with caution

The Herbivore’s Dilemma – Slate Magazine

Blurring the Boundaries – Japan Times  

Grass Fed 2: Herbivore Men and Japan’s Troubling Economy

writer: Kyojiro Kagenuma, editor: BeijaFlor

First posted at MGTOW Red Pill Forum on Feb 18 2014

Reposted at Going Your Own Way Forum on Feb 20 2014 

In this article, I want to share the significant impact of the Herbivore Culture on Japan’s economy.

“Won’t Someone Think of the Children?”

In retrospect, it’s quite amazing how the Herbivore Culture could slip through societal awareness for so long without attracting attention. The first indicator were the Parasite Singles phenomenon back in 2000 but it was largely ignored, then the rise of the Otaku Culture between 2001 and 2007 (Azuma, H 2009) and Japan's high suicide rates; these were all indicator of a larger problem that society did not see.

The reason why the last 5 years there has been significant interest in Herbivore Men is the primary concern of Japan’s Birth Rate Crisis. Japan could not ignore this. To give you an idea, a local school in Nanmoku, 85 miles from Tokyo, had 1,250 first graders 50 years ago. In 2012, it had only 37.

Where are the children? There are no children.

2010 began what has become the dramatic effect of the Herbivore culture which saw the population shrinking with negative percentages in annual population growth. With the birth rate of 1.39, Japan will see a future with more elderly unable to retire, a national debt of 1.1 trillion dollars that they cannot hope to pay without a much needed labor force, and the government not able to support Japan’s social welfare.

As more and more Herbivore men “Go Galt” and simply refuse to marry and father children, what many observers predict is a financial catastrophe of a colossal scale. Japan is of course worried, and people inside and outside of government are proposing plans to encourage more men and women to marry and have children.

One example is from Morinaga Tokuro, an economic analyst who in 2012 proposed an absurd Handsome Tax saying “If we impose a handsome tax on men who look good to correct the injustice only slightly, then it will become easier for ugly men to find love, and the number of people getting married will increase.” Under this proposal, the wealthy and handsome Herbivore Man will be taxed 80%. (Beth, 2011 Handsome Tax)

He was not joking; the Japanese are just that quirky.

Death and Taxes

I doubt very much any further tax imposed on the Herbivore men would have any effect. A married salaryman with an annual base salary of 10 million Yen (approximately US$100,000) would receive and allowance of 30,000 to 40,000 Yen or $300 - 400 monthly from his wife. 

The average Herbivore man can earn 6 million Yen annually; after income tax, this would yield 3.6 million Yen or $36,000 net, which amounts to 300,000 Yen or $3000 monthly. Deduct monthly cost of living at the outskirts of Tokyo, which is 120,000 Yen, the Herbivore Man will still have a disposable income of 180,000 Yen, or $1800 - about 5 times more disposable income than if he was married. (Note: These figures are approximate. Since May 2013 the exchange rate has fluctuated around US$1 = 100 Yen.)

If we consider the Handsome Tax of a Herbivore man who is earning 10 million annually and is taxed 80%, with other factors constant, his monthly disposable income would be 46,000 Yen or $451; still higher than the allowance a married salaryman would be likely to get from his wife. I must clarify that the Japanese Government gives many incentives to married couples with children and I gave an overly simplified example. However, it is worthwhile to see that even with taxes imposed on wealthy and handsome Herbivore men, it will likely not have any impact considering the heavy cost of having children that includes food, day care, school tuition, housing, car and insurance.

Add to this, the rising trend of suicide in men and work-related deaths due to depression, job loss and fatigue. In 2009, 32,845 Japanese killed themselves, 70% of them male (Brown,AM 2010). Japan has an average suicide rate of 30,0000 people annually for 14 years straight until 2012 with an average of 10,000 deaths due to overwork (Demetriou, D 2009). The National Police Agency attributed 1 in 4 suicides as financially motivated where borrowers of financial loan kill themselves so that their loan can be paid off with their life insurance.  Japan’s suicide rate is one of the highest in the world according to the World Health Organization, with no indication of decline.

Men would rather die than make their friends and families financial slaves. Herbivore men would rather live alone than be enslaved in this fashion.

The Downward Spiral

Understandably, Morinaga Tokuro’s proposal seemed desperate. Well, Japan is beginning to feel desperate. I read an article in the New York Times (Harney,A 2012) where the writer, Alexandra Harney proposed,

• subsidizing public day care in an attempt to make child care more affordable
• employ younger, more skilled labor and discourage overtime in favor of family time
• employ more women, and give incentives for women to return to work after childbirth

Wow, talk about the fastest way to ruin a country. Her suggestion is echoed by many writers of her kind in the western world. Instead of arguing her suggestion, I would like to point out that this writer absolutely did not address the actual problem i.e. young men and women are not having babies, there are no new families because they don’t want to make a family and, this is the most important part, Japanese women don’t want to work.

In a 2011 article in  Time Magazine, Sylvia Ann Hewlett said that data from the Center of Work-Life Policy showed that Japanese women with college degrees are 74% more likely to voluntarily quit their job, and that 63% of those who quit cite that “their career was not satisfying enough.” (Hewlett, SA 2011). A government survey by the Health, Labor and Welfare Ministry in 2013 showed that 1 in 3 of women wants to settle down and just remain a housewife (JapanToday2011).

Both Hewlett and Harney argued that Japanese women are being sidelined because of societal pressure to be stay at home mothers, stated that day care is expensive, and advocated flexible work hours – all to accommodate women, willfully ignoring that the many of young Japanese women do not want children and simply do not wish to work.

If the Japanese government continues to push pro-women policies in the workforce while disregarding the birth rate crisis and Japan’s aging and shrinking tax base, Japan would likely plunge further into debt, the cost of living would rise and people would have to work longer hours to try to earn more, resulting an increase in fatigue, stress, mental problems and work-related suicide.

Only this time, it’s the women in the workforce who are going to kill themselves, or at least kill each other.  I’m not saying that’s a good thing though.

Made In Japan

How would this affect Herbivore Men? Nothing that wouldn’t affect everyone else twofold.

Herbivore men are generally cautious and wary of their future and the economy, looking toward preservation and sustainability rather than consumption and conquest. Necessity is the mother of invention and in Japan’s worsening economy, the preservation and sustainability of Herbivore Men, which is in direct contrast to the Japanese women’s indulgence and decadence provide that necessity in which ingenuity and innovation to thrive.

So far, the pro-women policies spouted by Shinzo Abe do not seem to adversely affect Herbivore lifestyle. In fact, though Japan's marketplace has traditionally catered to women, the Herbivore men are becoming a growing consumer market in Japan with many products that are specifically designed for them. If this trend continues, then we should see a shift in purchasing power from women to men.

Bear with me on this; what this would do is create new products and services that are uniquely male-oriented, just as video games had been uniquely male for the best part of 30 years. We can see today how video games have grown from a geek culture to global culture, all thanks to Pong, Pac Man and everyone with a penis. The Otaku culture, another pre-dominantly male space and industry, is estimated to have market size of 2 trillion Yen in 2005 (Web Japan 2005).

Men created an industry when no industry existed before.

Sony, JVC, Casio, Toyota, Honda, Canon, Ricoh, Nintendo, Olympus, Panasonic, Seiko; the list just goes on and on of the many things Japanese made which are held with great esteem once or still. It was the Japanese automotive, electric and electronic products that made them rise from a nuclear testing ground to the third largest economy in the world paved by men’s ingenuity and innovation.

What Shinzo Abe, and other vagina worshippers like him fail to see, is that the solution does not lie with pandering to women but instead the government and the economy needs to encourage men. What the Japanese have forgotten is that at the end of the Second World War right up to Japan’s economic boom in the 1980’s, what made Japan so prosperous and advance is their inclination towards ingenuity and innovation carried out by the men of Japan.

Back then, when you had something that said “Made in Japan”, you knew it was the best. Here’s hoping that our brothers in Japan find the same ingenuity and innovation to bring them out of economic abyss.

References

Azuma, H 2009 Otaku Minneapolis University of Minnesota Press.

Further Readings

Japan'sSexual Apathy is Endangering the Global Economy

Japan'sYoung Men Seek New Path

Costof Living in Tokyo

WhySalarymen Get an Allowance From Their Wives