Thursday, March 20, 2014

Suggestions on Spreading the Red Pill



Even though I think it’s a little early to be commenting on this, I thought I should at least get the ball rolling. I hope that other members also weigh in their thoughts and experiences. 


Again caveat; these are my opinions and you need to see if it can apply to you. Just because it works for me, doesn't necessarily mean I'm right or that it will work for you. Always test it out. 

Like how Morpheus offered Neo the choice of the Blue and Red Pill, you cannot force the Red Pill on someone; it won’t go down well. The person has to choose to take the Red Pill himself and you can only offer it to those who are receptive. 

Engaging Women

Oh yeah, we do need to begin here. 

Why do we need to argue with women? We don’t and we don’t necessarily have to but there are times when we are pulled into an argument for even stupidly remote reasons. We need to defend ourselves from this and my aim for the Female Psychosis series is to help men to do just that. 

We’re often confounded and exasperated when arguing at length with women because we don’t know how they think and how to respond. If we knew, then we can strategically and tactically address each argument objectively and find the optimal solution for the best possible outcome. 

Remember, the goal is not to win the argument against an opponent who won’t admit defeat; the goal is to make them feel defeated. 

Other reasons I’ve already covered in Part 4 of my Female Psychosis series. 

Men of the Matrix (Non-Red Pillers)

In real life, no one can simply give the Red Pill without evoking some kind of reaction. Some men will take it objectively while others won’t. This is why I wrote the Male Mother Need; to address the problem of the ‘Ideal Women Fantasy’ that most if not all men seem to have. 

Karen Straughan aka GirlWritesWhat commented that for Blue Pillers, listening to Barbarossaa’s videos feels like walking in a haze and suddenly smashing into a brick wall. Straughan likes his materials but stated that his impassioned style and content is too harsh for the men in the matrix.

And she’s absolutely right. 

I know this from my own experience. If men have this idea in their minds that all women (or theirs) are angels then they’ll vehemently disagree when someone comes along telling them that their women aren’t; no matter how right you are. This isn’t Solipsism, rather a self-delusion and I once gave the example of Bernard Boursicot to highlight the power of this self-delusion. 

So how do we shatter this delusion?

That is where youtubers like Sandman are so influential. He eases the transition from Blue Pill to Red Pill by giving context to the problem where what we want to say actually makes sense. 

In our daily lives, talking about the other person’s relationship problems with family and lovers is a good start. Don’t immediately jump in with Red Pills but just provide a commentary, a remark with examples on women’s general behavior but you really need to know your stuff and this takes a lot of practice. 

What you’re doing is
1. Building rapport, earning his trust and show him that you’re on his side
2. To assure him that he’s not crazy for thinking and feeling the way he does about his women.

If he’s got no problems with his women then drop the subject and don’t pursue. It may be that he doesn’t trust you yet which means you need to build more rapport or maybe he hasn’t experience the entirety of women’s behavior which means you only need to give him time. 

And that’s all that it is, Time, Effort and Opportunity.

It’s a continuous process, not a single event. You need to find opportunities to give him small doses of Red Pills when the circumstance permit you e.g. if he makes a comment about his wife nagging, give him a small dose of Red Pill there, nothing controversial but just planting a seed so that seed will grow in the back of his mind. 

Planting the Seed

These are suggestions on seeding the Red Pill. You want to build a foundation so that when you give him the actual pill, he’ll be more receptive to take it. 

The first one is conversation starters, like sirreaper’s thread here (by the way reaper this is an awesome thread, kudos and much rep to ya). Use stuff like these as small talks to your friends; comment about it, laugh about it, discuss it – anything. You’re trying to implant the image of what women are into their minds but you need to build it up.

Second, and this idea is from Jagrmeister and it is a good idea; you can also use leading questions to measure what the man thinks about women e.g. “You know about the story of that girl who keeps condoms of men on her wall? What do you think of that?” 

And listen to what he says, look at his body language, does he scoff at the idea? Do he give nawalt and bwalt excuses? Does he just shrug? These are cues but you need to learn the man’s behavior to approximately guess what he really thinks. This takes a ton of practice. 

You know when you can get through to him when he confides with you regarding his troubled relationship (if he has any). And that’s when you need to be careful; don’t rush in. What you want to do here is to introduce the Red Pill and not divulge the entire catalogue of Red Pill wisdom. 

Don’t bombard him with everything just let him know that there are a lot of others in similar situations and there is a place where he can learn to protect himself. He’ll press if he’s curious and so you need to give him examples and you need to know your stuff inside out. 

Remember, you’re having a conversation with him, you’re not trying to recruit him or change his mind; that is his choice. He might be a traditionalist and wants a family badly (especially if he’s a real Asian); that’s fine and don’t disagree. You’re not giving him your opinion per se, you’re providing him information. 

It might be that he transition from Blue Pill to Purple Pill; this is fine too. We need to realize that not everyone will agree on being MGTOW, at least not so soon. Red Pill is most potent on men who have really suffered at the hands of women. For those who haven’t they don’t see the need to and unfortunately that’s how life is. 

But if we can get them out of the Blue Pill, that’s a start and that is still a win for us, at least that’s my opinion of it. 

If You Fail

I have failed so many times before I got good at this so if you fail don’t sweat it. When I was a teen, I have had the entire family up in arms against me when I pointed out something wrong. 

Continue to build rapport; it's all about Time, Effort and Opportunity. 

No one taught us how to be good at this and so it’s all trial and error and tons and tons of practice. You need to learn the hard approach and soft approach as well as when and why you apply them. I’ll try to cover more about this in the future. 

Children of the Matrix

This is unchartered territory for many MGTOWs and we don’t have a lot of experience in this. However, I think we should at least open a discussion regarding how we free our sons from the system. 

I thought about it but I realize that there are so many factors to consider; the Male Mother need of the son; the spousification of the son by the mother; the brainwashing of the son against the father; the effects of divorce on children; the gynocentric and misandric environment the son lives in; our sons own exposure to girls; the level of maturity in the son’s thinking process as well as; normal physical changes taking place in the son as he matures. 

I don’t have an informed opinion on many of these things unfortunately. 

However, I do think it’s better to do something than nothing and so, I think my approach to Non-Red Pillers in general is good for the time being to address the children of the matrix. 

TL/DR

1. You can’t force the Red Pill, you can only offer. 
2. Blue Pillars must voluntarily take it; if he rejects don’t pursue.
3. Build rapport, earn his trust and assure him you’re on his side.
4. Ease the Blue Piller into taking the Red Pill; don’t rush things.
5. It’s a continuous process; not a single event. 

A good book to read about building rapport is Dale Carnegie’s How To Make Friends and Influence People. It is rather corny and old-fashioned but I grew up with this book and it still has many applications that can be used today. 

Also, watch Sandman’s videos and learn his delivery style as well as content. Karen Straughan is pretty good too. I think I got the ball rolling. I’ll revisit this in the future. I think many of our members have good experiences that they can share; methods that I didn’t think of, mentioned or tried. 

Also, feel free to disagree with me if you do, and recommend better options

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